basically guys who can't meet girls. that's what that means. a new nbc news reports, self-described incels congregate mostly online, meeting in for rums and message boards to discuss their hopelessness with women in posts that are peppered with racist and misogynistic rants. joining me are the authors of this article, nbc news reporter brandy and ben collins and along with dr. way, professor of psychology at nyu. brandy, to you first, because the incel community was quick to praise him, calling him a hero. who are these people? >> thousands of very lonely sad confused sometimes violent young men who gather and congregate online to talk about their woes. >> but there's a huge difference between being a sad young boy and there are so many of them