television -- >> they have not had for decades. >> for 40 years. >> yeah. this is all that they wanted. >> as americans, this is what the american revolution is about. so there should be some kind of, in a sense, sympathy, and people confuse it with the iraq war in 2003. >> there were similarities. there was an accusation that chemical weapons were used. proof was never found. but we got ourselves in a war 15 years ago that we're not out of. >> and there was no presence of al qaeda in iraq. we know that now. and saddam hussein was is not slaughtering his people. and also what will happen? will he be brought to a war crimes tribunal? will he go to the hague? will there ever be justice for this man who has so much blood