i think at this particular point my message would be maybe have paul jago call me because he has never had an interview like this and maybe then he can speaking more directly about who i am and what i stand for. >> any chance you will run for a leadership post? >> really right now we are looking not at much about the penalties as about what they are going to stand for. and so as we look at that, it's about being about the people's business for the next seven or eight months, leading up to the mid terms. i'm not running for a leadership position. obviously, the freedom caucus, and if we vote as a bloch, which we probably will with a few exceptions, you know, it will be a factor in this leadership race. >> mark meadows, congressman from north carolina. head of the freedom caucus. appreciate having you on. always appreciate you coming on and sharing your views. >> thanks chuck. a programming note. house speaker paul ryan will be