in the present and can alter the past. it is a illegal to lie to the fbi. if he is encouraging witnesses in any context to change the story or to arrange a particular story that isn't true when it comes to the firing of the head of the fbi, that is a huge problem for the president going forward. it establishes that he was willing to do that kind of thing. >> does it show how carelessly he treats the truth? >> absolutely. it's been said it's like a goldfish. lives in the present, doesn't care about the past. that's all well and good in business, but gets you into trouble if you're under investigation. >> caitlyn, the other big story is erik prince and the seychelles meeting. erik prince says the meeting came about by chance. that's what he told house intel. it's also what he told stephen