around so that the point that daniel is making and daniel i want to go back to you on this, you're not a political strategist, but what is it that you think we can do as democrats. i'll just ask it from the perspective of my party, what is it that we can do as democrats to make sure the argument that you're making about how to strengthen our trade policies and make sure the benefits are enjoyed by working folks can actually be more resonant politically. >> you have to point out the management with which the trump white house rolled this out. which is to say, even if you think that protectionism is a good idea, they have somehow managed to enact this in the stupidest way possible in such a way that you've managed to al n allenuate allies. you have to say, yes, absolutely. trade creates winners and losers. there are a lot more winners in the united states than there are losers as a result of our trade policies the last 70 years. the question is how do you