bewildering bewilderi bewildering to people on both sides of the aisle. i don't know what the conversations are between the president and the secretary of state. as we know, the president really has said nothing about these russian efforts. i mean, remember two weeks ago, russian mercenerys attacked. the battle is not just online. it is very much a real battle with real people in real lives. and the fact that neither the president nor really the secretary of state has addressed this is remarkable and surprising, again, to republicans and democrats on both sides. >> "the new york times" state department correspondent gardener harris, appreciate your time. >> glad to be here. >> jennifer ruben, i know you have done some reporting on this. can you weigh in on this story