core belief. he's held to it through his various flirtations with politics over the years including his campaign of 2016 and then in the presidency. i wouldn't be surprised if he sticks to this, these new tariffs. again, could certainly change his mind. >> this policy would not give president trump, evan, the end result he's looking for. i go back to the beginning where we said this is to go back to china. where are we doing that? >> i gave him a great dinner in beijing, so why not. this is really -- if the president had bothered to actually read his subscription of forbes magazine, instead of being spanked by it, he'd realize the gop orthodoxy is tariffs like this are actual bad, trade wars are bad. they hurt the american consumer. now, there are 140,000 steel jobs in the united states. yes, it's good to try to protect them and help those american