eyeballs. >> i think the burden of proof is not in a criminal context, we don't know yet, yes we do. >> just like we know there's collusion. because in plain sight he invited participation. >> last word. >> we just say paul man for the made a business out of supporting putin's interests in ukraine and then the united states. this part with trump is the third chapter and it's a natural follow to what precede today. paul manafort and donald trump speak the same language, they come from the same murky world and it makes all the sense in the world that they would work together on a campaign. >> all right put look like you're bursting, go. >> i want to give props to evan mcmullin who came on my podcast when it first came out, you just announced you were running for president and said something then that shocked me, which was that donald trump was behaving like an asset of vladimir putin. when he said it at the time it made my hair go on fire because