well, looked like he was reaching in. i thought he might be opening up the back of that, but there are a number of police officers around the vehicle. he's reaching in now and he's grabbing something. he's taking something out from inside the vehicle. let's just see what that is. we can't see -- all right. he seems to have left it in there. they're trying to figure this out. frank figliuzzi, this is a bomb squad. his vest says bomb squad on it, i don't know what division of the police he's with, but this is now -- it looks like they're looking for something. >> yeah, so, a couple things. sean mentioned earlier we can tell from the way they are now fairly casually approaching this vehicle -- and by that i mean we don't see extreme protective measures being used. >> right. >> i'm going to go out and say that they've done a quick interview of this driver and for some reason the risk level has come down. the way he's poking his head, this officer right now we're watching, poking his head into the van, this is not something