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to emphasize that this operation described in this indictment is not the hacking operation. so usually when we think of russian intervention in the election, and interference in the election, we're thinking of stolen emails, right? and those are the subject of, for example, the trump tower meeting, the, you know, the george popadopoulos saying, you know, hearing that there's dirt on hillary, right, these are references, at least we assume to emails that have been per loined by russian hackers. that is not the subject of this indictment. so this is a completely separate set of operations that allegedly involves these troll farms and these influence operations. so i don't think in any sense it precludes a collusion allegation, and i think it would be very hasty of people who were inclined to defend the president

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