the record in front of everyone i'd love to talk to him? it was just a few weeks ago he said i'll sign whatever you bring to me to the folks hammering out a daca and ripped it up. as we see him say i would love to talk to muler. >> it certainly weakens his personal lawyers' ability to be tough in the opening bid of the negotiation for the interview. remember, we reported yesterday, my colleague and i josh, people close to the president said his lawyers were planning on next week having a significant negotiation with mueller's team what the parameters were, how much would be in writing, how much would be one-on-one face-to-face. and some other terms i'm sure about audiotape, videotape, et cetera. so this doesn't help if they wanted to start kind of with a low bided of asking for less time in person because the president is essentially saying come on. i'm ready. >> carol and robert, thanks for being here. it was over one year ago or one year ago today actually that two fbi agents walked into the white house to question michael