negotiating with jello. >> it's fantastic, yeah. >> there is truth to that. he says yes often in the room to things that he has a completely different conception of than the people who are saying it. so, yet trump says, yeah, yeah, sure, we'll do the clean daca thing. but in his mind clean meant the wall. he has never relinquished the wall. in 3r50i6private conversations d we have to have the wall, the wall. these people are killers. his core beliefs haven't changed. he's not across the policy as one would need to be to have those kind of conversations. >> especially on television, because we all know they happened and it's not even a he said, she said. becky, i want to ask you about the idea of sarah huckabee sanders performing for an audience of one. that was one thing when it was sean spicer fighting about the size of the crowd. but there is now -- i know you spent the weekend covering what is really a hot war inside the fbi, an agency with nothing less than all of our security, our