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to e get back to we want folks to contribute to the economy and move away from chain migration and towards a merit based. we are interested in folks coming into this country who can contribute. i don't think that ever qualifies. >> so that world view is coloring the overall debate. i would just add we're 37 hours into this shutdown. we're 37 hours into the shutdown. president trump was working the phones yesterday. but today we have no guidance yet from the white house press staff about how president trump is spending his day. we don't know who he is calling. we don't know if he's going to meet in person with lawmakers. even as we can see the senate con seens, the house is set to gavel in an hour. it's been radio silence from the president's press staff. >> thank you very much from the white house on that. we're going to start discussion now with eric mcpike, adviser for media group of america, and jeremy peters, reporter for the

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