get their attention. how are they really seriously considering something like this? >> i don't think so. i think what actually is happening is, the armed forces, i think, quietly are preparing for war. clearly that's a potential outcome, certainly if the north koreans miscalculate and do some gross provocation, fire 100 artillery rounds into downtown seoul, something of that nature, i think we would end up in an immediate war. but most of this is background movements by the armed forces to enhance diplomacy, which i don't think is going to work. so again i think the problem is we're going to end up with a nuclear armed north korea, at which point andrea, the sad part of this is our strategy will be pre-emptive nuclear strike when we think they're about to launch, so it will raise the anxiety and the danger level of