also our commitment to the rule of law. and both of those things are at work in this compromise we've made in the senate around immigration. >> you said these are trying times and you worry we won't recover. i mean, that's -- i don't want to say that's apocalyptic, too strong a description, but that's pretty demoralizing and so i guess the question is, you're an elected official, what's your obligation to do something about this? >> well, i think -- i think every elected official and frankly every american has an obligation to do something about this. we are a nation of immigrants. we are committed to the rule of law. the founding fathers, when they set this country up, knew they were setting up something that had never existed before in human history, which was a democratic republic. we would be self-governing. and they knew as a definitional matter that we would have disagreements. and they set up a bunch of very elegant mechanisms for us to resolve those disagreements. and it's now up to our