the wall, because without the wall it all doesn't work. >> so you got the sort of like 180, then a 360, and back to where he is. but there has been developments because when you talk to people what exactly is a wall. seems athough it's clear president and aides have accepted a wall is not a wul. a wall is not really a wall. kelly and kelly said that. you can't build a big shiny wall. >> i think what the president does want and probably does need is something he can go back to his base and say, look, here's what i got. >> and seems like democrats are willing to say sure border security money is fine. >> yeah, how do you split the difference how do you get somewhere they can be comfortable with. >> and let me go back to the topic we talked about in the beginning of the show regarding the fisa issue. because we have some breaking news, and i'm looking at my phone, so forgive me if i'm reading off it, which i am, a senior democrat aide has asked
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