chairman of the powerful house freedom caucus. it has 30 members. >> a good 25 or 30 votes are representative of your caucus? >> we try to get together and make sure we have a united front when it comes to the conservative voice. more importantly it's not about the 35 members, chuck. it's about the millions of people who feel like washington, d.c. has forgotten them. that's why the caucus was formed, certainly it's why they have influence on capitol hill. >> you definitely have flurchs and these building blocks to get the deals, the compromises done. let's face it you are not going to get everything you want. chuck and nancy won't get everything they want. >> i'm shocked. >> and the president won't. what's fatalistic and what's possible? let's start with daca and the deferred action for the d.r.e.a.m.ers. is this going to be a narrow deal -- first of all, are you