security editor and senior correspondent for politico. tamara keith, white house correspondent for npr. and ken vogual political reporter for "the new york times." thank you all for being with us especially as part of our leadoff panel tonight. ken, i'll lead off with you. what do you make of this bank subpoena, if true, is it a big deal? what else does it speak of? >> absolutely. we always kind of knew that this was a possibility that mueller would start looking into donald trump's finances and this subpoena, again, if it is accurate that deutsche bank has been subpoenaed, would indicate that he is fully going down that route. deutsche bank is significant because donald trump -- it has at least $130 million worth of donald trump's debt and it sold snaf debt or could have sold some of that debt to russian banks. that could potentially give these russian banks some leverage over donald trump. and so you have the combination here potentially of donald
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