prosecutor. we're happy as well to be joined by saul wisen berg. independent counsel for the whitewater/lewinsky investigation. i'll give you a double. why did flynn lie about the things he lied about and why was donald trump so adamant about defending him? >> it's really hard to know the answer to that. i think bob mueller knows the answer to that now. for us it may take longer. here is a plausible theory. flynn clearly wasn't lying to cover up the logan act. the 200--year-old statute that makes it illegal for a private citizen to negotiate. the seems more reasonable the special counsel house investigating that it has something to do with campaign contact with russia which would be a much cleaner federal violation, a violation of federal campaign law and that the president's engagement is a result of the violation and desire to keep it from becoming
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