campaign to the transition and administration. the first few weeks at least. flynn's guilty plea makes him a dangerous man. for in dprgs. in march when flynn was trying to work out an mupt deal with congressional investigators you may recall his attorney robert kjell ner said in a statement, quote, general flynn tesch certainly has a story to tell. and he very much wants to tell it should the circumstances permit. that was a rare public plea. the story could have serious implications for the president and the white house. here with us to talk about it further former u.s. attorney joyce vanessa who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor and we're happen happy to be joined by saul wisen berg for the white water investigation he conducted grand jury questioning of president bill clinton among other cases.