want to make sure they keep things separate. so i don't take anything from the president for this. >> one of the things we have learned about robert mueller is he runs a pretty tight ship, right? we're all speculating here. we should be very clear about that. but what do you see this as? >> well, going to the congresswoman's statement, i do think a lot of this may be -- maybe a function of his son being squeezed quite substantially. when i talk to a lot of democratic voters there is a hope and desire this is going to go into the oval office, that this can be traced back to the president. we know that flynn, based on these allegations, has done pretty serious and egregious stuff, the $15 million he might get paid for the kidnapping of this muslim individual reported. just crazy stuff. the question is how much does this go into the oval office. >> or how much does it continue to be part of the conversation -- >> correct. >> -- for the midterms. that's absolutely right. does it become a distraction for