you compare the experiences of those two types of countries. a big lis chterature that looks that. we go through the papers and show, if this paper is true what wage effect do you get? most is well north of $4,000. that's where the number comes from. middle, orange tie? >> the tax reform proposal is that the corporate tax rate is cut permanently. the individual tax rate phases out after ten years. why in your view is that such a good idea? >> so the president supports permanent tax cuts for the middle class and permanent tax cuts for corporations and that's the objective of the planners of this tax bill but there are senate budget rules and reconciliations allowing this to move forward with 51 votes. the hope for everybody, when the time comes for these to expire,

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