was obsessed with, and eventually destroyed lbj, and that was, i don't want to be the first president to lose a war. nixon spent all that time trying to come up with an image that looked like he wasn't losing a war, which we did definitely lose. >> yeah, well said. well written, of course. law reference o'donnell, "plaing with fire: the 1968 election and the transformation of american politics." let me finish with this lure that lawrence reflect on this the late 1960s. this is not new to me. ever since live including that time i've felt the pull of a time when when was a zest in the air, an edge of excitement, especially late 1967 and 1968 when i marched to the pentagon, i war marched and watched the good fight as lawrence mentioned between bobby kennedy and eugene mccarthy. my chirp have picked up on this lore of the 1960s, asked me about it, how we lived it. the fun we had. the craziness of some of it. let's be honest, the music and the characters were the best