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enforcement opens an investigation or prosecutes someone, it's based on the evidence and not on political ideology. and that's what make the president's comments so dangerous. he believes it's okay to use the incredible coerce i've power of the federal government to go after political enemies. it's wrong and it's also, by the way, obstruction of justice. >> the argument on the other side are these are the whalings of a fundamentally impotent individual. that were he actually directly ordering the department of justice to do this, that would be one thing, but he's just kind of whining about it on twitter the way that anyone watching fox news might. and, therefore, it's less of a threat and doesn't cross the line. what do you make of that argument? >> i suppose if this was donald trump, the real estate developer, doing things on twitter, it would be different. but he's the president of the united states. and if he in fact is under investigation, we don't know if he is, but if he is, then he has now either endeavored to influence or directly tried to

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