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jury in washington. joining me now to talk more about this, we have our legal corresponde correspondent. let's talk about the argument we heard from sarah sanders and what the white house position on this is, in terms of manafort and gates. this all happened precampaign. >> the white house is arguing that and donald trump's tweets are focusing only on the manafort/gates piece. it's a focus to try to say this is all pre2016, and thus, really not our problem, and just people we met that had old problems, whatever they may be. just two points on that, number one, that may not ultimately be the case, the time goes into 2016 and 2017, we don't know what all of those records will lead to, and whether they are part of some broader plot. second, even if the white house is right, that this all is

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