what it is about. with that caveat, it still is a big deal for everybody involved in the agenda. >> kimberly to, katelin's point right there, there are multiple threads to this investigation. is there any indication which lane monday's indictment represents? >> yeah, we don't know. all that is being kept very close to the vest. one thing that the fact that we do have an arrest that's so imminent right now shows that this investigation that's being conducted by robert mueller is more of a rolling investigation. it's not a situation where he's going to work for a year and a year and a half. we don't hear anything and at the very end he reveals everything. he's going to be -- indictments are going to be coming down along the way. that in itself is probably very worrisome for the white house because it's going to be difficult -- there's no way they can contain it and also just as you said, it's going to overshadow any sort of legislative or executive accomplishment that the white house is going to want to focus