equatorial guinea. we need to focus on better policing, the pulling levers project from boston, those are the things that will solve it. we're arguing about things that don't address the problem. >> there are bubbles dealing with everything. the coffee bubble is starbucks versus duncan. the self-driving car bubble is the kind of technical class believing who wouldn't want to be driven around versus people who, frankly, are wired like me. i enjoy my american-made suv which runs on gasoline, and i also don't want to see those long line truckers put out of work. how do we make bubble-to-bubble cross currents and outreach. >> let's start with the fact the admission about ourselves as human beings. we like tribes. do you remember the old tom ler