economy with 150 workers a claim workers will benefit by $600 billion or 300% of the tax cut. to my knowledge, unprecedented in tax incidents. i don't need to get why you and larry disagree, but there is something here about the fact that we used to think that a rising tide lifted all boats, and the argument could be made that corporations that make more are better for workers. we now think that a rising tide generally helps yachts. you're looking at a multiplying -- >> hasn't been helping in the u.s., right. >> are you sure the structural break between companies earning more and people earning more is solved just by lowering the corporate tax rate and applying it to more companies? >> i think that what we have to do then is rely on science and i think that -- even though larry had harsh things to say it's important to understand in public life people criticize you