when people are thinking that, they are americans. we grew up in a certain culture. they will gun up. >> the place in the world has been lost. >> i think a lot about the reasons for these things. >> i think for bill o'reilly, there is no freedom in fear. that's where this turns and they've pushed this fear agenda to a point that people are paralyzed to go out of their house. they're paralyzed to get on the internet. >> that's the price of freedom? great. >> if that's the price of freedom, we have nothing. >> and glenn beck used to sell survival cds. we joked about it -- >> funny, but it's not. >> survival seeds. >> this has been fed to a group of americans now for 30 years. >> yeah. and definitely for a good decade. >> these are the costs. i'm not saying what happened yesterday was the cost. we're talking about the culture in general, why are people running out and buying these guns. >> joining us now from
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