you're getting into? >> there was an enforcement leader called the general in california, and there was some really stern conversations where he said, look, son, you're going to shut down, aren't you? i said back to him, you know, respectfully, you know, what we're doing is legal, and we're going to continue to operate. >> so what she said was? >> look, son, you're going to shut down. >> again. >> beyond the general, the biggest challenge for lyft is the behemoth now so ubiquitous it has become a verb, uber. when people think about your sector of the economy, they think about uber first, probably. and then they think about lyft. what is the relationship like between uber and lyft? >> you know, they got started first. with a vision of being everyone's private driver, with black cars and limos. and we said, you know, we want to bring down the cost of transportation. we want to bring people together. >> you know you're doing something right when uber starts paying attention to you. they put up billboards trying to lure some of your drivers away. what was your reaction to that? >> we've just been really focused on who we are and what we do. i think the differences speak