on that? how does he engage iran? you can't just threaten and bludgeon them. that's not going to work. >> andrea, perhaps a cold comfort i may be getting from this speech is that we're actually setting up normal lines once again of division, conservatives cheering him on about what he's saying about iran and cuba. >> true. >> internationalists not doing that, instead of him saying i'm wrecking the entire world order. i'm going off obama's iran deal, which i said from the beginning i thought was a horrific deem him going after cuba. again, in two instances at least conservatives a lot of americans thought we gave a lot more than we got from these two regimes and their behavior over the past year suggests -- >> i take your point. there is a meeting tonight. for the first time rex tillerson will sit down at the table with everyone that negotiated the iran deal, including the foreign minister of eastern. >> that will be the fairs face-to-face meet work he said