why is anyone surprised he's being a little unconventional in the way he's handling it here? also it could end up being the best discipline the republicans in congress have ever had. if they realize he'll go to the democrats and round up his numbers, big incentive for the freedom caucus and house moderates to come to accommodation. see what happens. >> that's interesting. what do you say? >> everybody is right. >> what do you think? >> i think that i -- i go back to this interview that happened on the hill this week we reported on in the "new york times," and that person said that donald trump could be to daca what richard nixon was to china. this idea that while you have this person that is problematic and has all of these issues going on, if donald trump can do what two presidents have failed to do, pass immigration reform and change the system, then maybe whatever the chaos was that he continues to live in, that there's somewhere in there is someone who also likes to make deals. if there are deals that can be made, then he's obviously