every single day. >> right. >> there are particular issues that are vexing. >> like what. >> leak to the environment. affirmative action. >> who gets to decide who those are? >> what those issues typically revolve around. they have revolved around it since major universities have been integrated, since brack and brown people entered those schools and women entered these schools, typically this debate occurs around issues that revolve around issues that concern black folk, that involve issues around issues that involve women, around the cultural issues and they're called into question the very -- >> confront it. >> we do. i do it every day in my classes, part of what i'm trying to say is this doesn't happen right with the conservative interpreter of ar as to thele or the -- aristotle or the breitbart folks that want to use the value of the university to