order. he doesn't need anything. what i would encourage the president to do. i think he's at camp david right now is he should call every cabinet security and get them on a secure conference call and he should read them the rye on the act and it should basically be brock long is my personal representative in this disaster. whatever he asks for, you give it to him. and if i hear any of you bickering about, well, is he really need this or that, no. he's the guy in charge. give him what he needs. that's what the president should do. it doesn't have to be public -- >> so is it fair to say the biggest lesson you take away from katrina is that president bush had been nor emphatic that with a with his cabinet, that would have saved lives? >> yes. well, yes, because i will tell you historically overtime what we see from intrepid reporters actually doing reporting on katrina, they find that things that i asked for, things that i actually signed we call them mission assignments, and i would sign these mission assignments and hand them off to my federal coordinating officer that would