secretaries of defense we ever had, yates and panetta. so it's not as if he's unaware of the ground and the alchemy that goes on inside washington, d.c. >> do you draw any thesis in a west wing that we described again as a circular firing squad. do you think it is better armor than most? >> i think it is better armor but it is not fool proof. i mean, we've already seen -- a lot of us wonder when h.r. mcmaster was named national security adviser how long it would take him to butt heads with steve bannon and sort of the national iist wing and that faction that's very strong in the white house. all of these generals have world vee p views that are internationalists. it's very much different from the nationalist world view of the steve bannons of the world.
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