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blowhard, who may be saying the president is deeply involved in this and interested in this, when he has no right to say that. however, nice thing about a lawsuit and we're really good at these in this country, if it proceeds, there will be discovery and the discovery in the digital age will be full of digital fingerprints and trails, e-mails and all the rest, so we're going to learn a lot more about this. >> in fact, all of the communications to air force one are recorded. so there is a record of all of the phone conversations back and forth because they were calling lawyers on the ground, including don jr.'s lawyers, apparently. >> so what is interesting, andrea, is what we have seen in the past couple of weeks is that this is an administration and before that, the campaign, that seem to be remarkably open to just about anyone who e-mailed them to say they had negative information about one of their opponents or something that could help them, whether it is don jr. taking a meeting with the russians because they claim they have something about hillary clinton or whether it is sean spicer sitting down with a

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