utah are always collaborating on interstate health care policy announcements. okay? i mean, this is? a land where obviously things are not normal. this is not normal. garrett is putting north the straight forth explanation of linking arms and not being the one person that conservatives can seize on is helpful. you can pubt a target on both of their be backs. tell us about the politics of the two rather conservative states. >> mike lee specifically has, for a long time, been one of the best voices against a lot of the hedging that trump does in terms of how he tries to laud supposedly conservative poll sicks while not pushing that as policy. and back during the campaigns and during the rnc convention, he was one of the loudest voices