cognizant of that as we -- in terms of how the president -- the kind of rhetoric he yous in this situation. >> and returning to the russia investigation, there is a lot of loose talk about who was at that meeting, we didn't know initially all of the players. but just the fact that we had during the campaign a meeting with a russian lawyer and a russian former counterintelligence official who are so closely connected to vladimir putin's agenda, which is basically repealing those magnitsky sanctions, what alarm bells should have gone off within the campaign structure? >> russian intelligence is famous for trying to contact, engage with any american that has info in our political system. the mere request of the meeting should have set off alarm bells of what's really going on here,