timive collusion that -- furtive collusion that not only affected but dictated the electoral outcome. we're the only people that says it's hillary clinton and nobody believes it. >> and last night conservative columnist charles kraut heimer had a different take. >> this was a bungled collusion. this was amateurist collusion. this was keystone cops collusion, but it doesn't change the fact it was attempted collusion. it undoes the white house story completely. >> well, ruth marcus, maybe, i, correct me if i'm wrong, i sense kellyanne conway potentially trying to move the goal post. she adds we were promised, the media the critics have promised, we were promised evidence of collusion. she added in that statement there, collusion that clearly impacted the outcome of the election. and if that's the standard you end up setting on all this with all the respations we seen and maybe more to come.