places. but felix sader was one of the people that was with michael cohen when this sort of alleged peace deal was brought back together, and felix seder is someone with a strange history with the trump organization as well. >> yes, felix seder, who donald says i wouldn't know him if i saw him in the room traveled with donald for years. he is at the center of the bay rock scandal. he has shown up repeatedly as being a crucial force in understanding donald trump and money that comes out of the russian kleptocracy that has bailed him out several times. you know, we now have about 20 people, chris, who are broadly being looked at here. and while some of them may be very tough and take on the sort of attitude of michael seder or -- i'm sorry -- michael cohen or felix seder, there are people who are going to be subject to leverage by competent investigators. so i think we're going to see more stuff continue to flow out. the smoke's going to get thicker