something more tangible? >> not as yet, not as far as i can see. i think this is a party motivated by anger, but it's got to find a message beyond ang earl. if you can fill in the blank, what does the democratic party stand for? what is its economic agenda? i don't think people know. i don't. >> and i wonder, on the other side, hugh, if there is any concern that there will be for the democrats, sort of a coming together of how all the activism that we're seeing, the people marching in the streets, the people joining organizations, should the republicans be worried that in some ways this president has awakened a sleeping beast? >> they have to be worried about 2018. because it is an offyear election and the party that holds the white house typically does very badly in such an election. but democrats didn't win the kansas forum and didn't win the first round in the georgia six. i think they have a lot of