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away insurance from several million people unless you agree to work with me on taking insurance away from even more people. it just doesn't -- i'm honestly baffled why he thinks this is going to work. >> and do you think that the fact that it's democrats that he's threatening and not his own party is sort of a tacit admission that he can't get a bill through his own party, and so he's essentially admitting that he needs nancy pelosi and chuck schumer to put together the whip count for him? >> yeah. i mean there's no question at this point. there's a lot of -- we keep hearing republicans were this close to a repeal bill. they have some really fundamental disagreements within the republican party about what to do. if you try to imagine sort of a way forward on health care to make some changes in the law, it's pretty obvious that the governing majority here is some combination of republicans and democrats. and senator schatz, as he said, democrats would be more than happy to work on a set of bipartisan fixes, you know,

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