bannon say that he isn't going anywhere. i bring in jonathan swann for political co-reporter, based on your the recording and what you're hearing, do you think they can work it out? >> there will be some give and take there. jared kushner has been unhappy with the way the white house has been performing and performing is the right word. when he tucson his colleagues, he discusses the white house in terms that you might describe as silicon valley start-up. he says we need to keep making changes. it is amorphous. we need to keep tinkering. and he has seen steve bannon as a problem. he sees that bannon has a sort of burn it down, tear down the establishment approach and jared has found that to be counter productive. >> business insider is reporting that employees at breitbart news have beened not to write critical stories about jared kushner. where do you think that is