there's no demonstrable evidence they're actually doing that. there's no demonstrable results they're doing better. >> the president's spokesperson almost gleeful. joining me now, dean baker, author of "rigged, how the rules of the modern economy were structured to make the rich richer." dean, you're a budget nerd and i've counted on you for budget commentary for years. i can't decide between two things. is this a standard republican budget or something different? . it's somewhere in between. this is an extreme version of a republican budget. it's very mean spirited, they're going after programs that help lower income people. this has been done before. i'm old enough to remembering are. he did a lot of things like this. in the case of president trump, this seems so gratuitous, these are small programs, not a lot of