administrator, scott pruitt? >> no. no. i'm not exactly on the list. >> well, i guess -- as a former epa administrator and he doesn't have any experience, as much experience as you had doing it, and you know, here he's got -- in your opinion a republican administration and some at the time thought you weren't pro-business enough because of what you were advocating at the epa. what would you tell scott pruitt to say you know what, this is what you're going learn what the epa really is. you may think it's x, but it's really y. what is that y that you would tell scott pruitt? >> well, the y is it's really about public health and the environment. and what he needs to do as i've said repeatedly is just take a deep breath, get to know the agency, get to understand how much the agency is controlled, what it does by the laws that established it. that congress wrote. i mean, the epa has to consider certain things relative to clean air within certain time frames. they don't have a choice. and on the clean power plan, as far as carbon goes, that's been