to defend him. this is not a white house matter. this is the department of justice. their rules are very clear. he has to recuse himself. of course, i'm curious that it appears he did not tell the truth in answer to my question or to senator franken's. but the bigger question is, what is russia doing? i know president trump says he didn't talk to russia for years and, yet he brags about the fact that he had his friends in there listening to him talk to vladimir putin just a few weeks ago. there seems to be a blind eye on russia. but we americans should worry about whether we are republicans or democrats is that russia, a c country that certainly has strong views against us is trying to influence our elections. >> matter in -- >> i don't care which party you belong to. that's the issue.