sessions. here it is. >> if there is any evidence that anyone affiliated with the trump campaign communicated with the russian doft in the course of this campaign, what will you do? >> senator franken i'm not aware of any of those activities. i have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign. and i didn't -- not have communications with the russians. >> i did not have communications with the russians. pete, some democrats say that sessions perjured him right there. what's the law on that? >> well, perjury is a general matter in the law says it's may going a statement under oath that you belief not to be true. in other words, it's intentionally lying or misleading. now, what senator sessions' people are saying is that he didn't do that. that he was thinking of the question in terms of contact between trump campaign surrogates and russian officials about the campaign. they say that the meeting that he had with the russian ambassador in september didn't