into your services with ill will or intent to participate in a secure activity, what would your take be? >> i would tell them to go back where they came, there's no reason to bring ill will into the hall, it's a sacred place, if one person is sick in the group, then we're all sick. if you're in the communities, you have a say so, and if something's kind of controversial it does get voted on. >> can you elaborate on that a little bit. >> let's say somebody had a new idea for how we salute each other, or something like that in. >> you say salute, you're talking about greeting someone? >> yeah, particular handshakes, like as a fraternity, people like to set themselves apart. >> you stated that you or your community have a greeting that you refer to as a salute. can you show me what that refers to? >> no, i -- i never said that. >> no? >> well, you mean like we say something. we say hail sa which means hello and good health. >> you weren't referring to a gesture? >> no, no, no. or body language or anything like that.