ultimate betrayal after all they did for us. and you know, it's not just about translators or interpreters, it's also about refugees who are fleeing isis terror. that's what america is supposed to be about, we're supposed to be the city on the hill, the location that people can go when they are oppressed. and right now this executive order from the president does not reflect that. >> we don't know exactly what the wording will be of this executive order that he is about to sign. we know the president in the past has talked about particular countries that he's concerned about and suspension of visas for people from iran, iraq, syria, and yemen. of course that affects the man you're talking about. does that grouping of countries strike you as interesting or significant in any way? >> well, first of all it's unfair to the people who live there. but also it of course strikes me interesting because of the countries he left out like saudi arabia, egypt and turkey are countries that he has business interests in and he left those