was. it could be russia but it could also be china. it could also be lot oefs other people. it also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds. you don't know who broke in to dnc. >> the 400 pounder on the bed theory. last thing before we go here tonight, that was donald trump casting doubt on the notion of russia hacking the dnc at the first debate. throughout this campaign there were questions of russian involvement in the hacking of the dnc and the hacking of john podesta's e-mails released on wikileaks. so we thought we'd show you something unambiguous. this is admiral mike rogers, the ed of the nsa, at this week's "wall street journal" event in d.c. >> there shouldn't be any doubt in anybody's mind. this was not something that was done casually. this was not something that was done by chance. this was not a far get that was selected purely orb trarly, this was a conscious effort by a nation state to attempt to